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During Jason's nightmare in the dream world, Freddy was in Jason's child-like unconscious, and that is the only place where he actually has a fear of water. As it is explained in "Freddy vs. Jason", the book....

"Slowly, ever so slowly, Krueger dragged himself along the length of the pier. Despite the agony, despite everything he'd just suffered, the maniac managed to break open a quiet sneer.

He was heading for the water. Poor Jason's favorite thing, of course.

Krueger tried to laugh, but just coughed--an awful rasping sound, thick with internal damage.

By going to the end of the pier, Krueger wasn't heading into a corner, he wasn't trapping himself--he was daring that moron Jason to come after him.

But this wasn't a dream, and Freddy wasn't unlocking any irrational fears or complexes buried deep in Jason's subconscious.

Freddy wasn't to know that Jason had already spent countless undying years trapped at the bottom of Crystal Lake."

In the real world, Jason Voorhees didn't give a shit about water. Water was good for drowning people. He knew that from very personal experience."

Jason Goes to Hell takes place in 1999, and in Jason X, Jason is captured in 2008. So, yes, Freddy vs. Jason is an interquel of those two films.

No, but children and teenagers are his personal killing preference.

The amount of time spent in Jason's dream sequence is unknown, and we are to assume that Jason was asleep long enough for them to get there.

After being in Hell, Freddy has become more demon-like and morphs into this demon several times throughout the movie.

Freddy has a mental link with Jason at this point and leads him to his destination.

In the deleted scenes, it shows that Freddy makes Mark vomit up green and brown eels onto the floor.

Because the nightmare was taking place in the dream world, inside Jason's unconscious, how he looked as a boy was a representation of how he saw himself as a child.

The bracket is not actually on the main wall, but on the side wall in the corner. He bounces off the main wall into the bracket at the side.

Freddy only stabbed him once, so his eyes may have just been sliced, but not removed.

If you look closely, you can see that Jason's fingers are still missing as he comes out of the water, and he is simply palming Freddy's head.

Who won in the end?

That is up to each individual viewer to personally decide.

Sadly, no. Since Friday the 13th was remade, and A Nightmare on Elm Street is in the process of being remade, a sequel to Freddy vs. Jason will not be made.

There was going to be a part II called "Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash", which was set to be the sequel to "Freddy vs. Jason" where the two iconic killers would be pitted against Ash from the "The Evil Dead" series. As Freddy plans to use the Book of the Dead to carry out his deadliest scheme yet, and possibly re-enter the "real world" as a demonic force. Ash must battle him, while also saving kids in a cabin from the deadly wrath of Jason.

The script was quickly dropped when Sam Raimi, creator and rights holder of Ash and "The Evil Dead" series, refused to let New Line use his character and story, which pretty much killed the chances of a sequel ever happening.

Also, according to an interview with Robert Englund from March 2006, New Line Cinema had participated in talks with John Carpenter concerning the use of Michael Myers in a sequel. However, a deal was never made, and there was a Halloween remake.

Kane Hodder offered to reprise his role as Jason Voorhees for "Freddy vs. Jason", but was turned down by the producers because the film was being shot in Canada, and it was cheaper to hire a local stuntman.

New Line Cinema also worried that Hodder would have been difficult to work with, and not done as he was directed to do since in the past in such films as "Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan", "Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday", and "Jason X", Hodder would often argue with the director, and producers, and have major creative differences with them.

Another reason he didn't get the part is because director Ronny Yu believed Hodder was too short, and bulky for the role. Yu had his own image of what he wanted the Jason character to look like, and thought that Jason should be gigantically big, almost comic bookish and basketball player like, and wanted an actor who would tower over Robert Englund so Yu could create a David and Goliath sort of visual imagery between Freddy and Jason.

Yu also thought Hodder's eyes were too intense, and believed that Jason should have more sympathetic, soulful eyes that could reflect pain, and loss, because Yu wanted Jason at times to come across as a sad, pathetic, Phantom of the Opera type of character.

Betsy Palmer was asked to reprise her role of Mrs. Pamela Voorhees, but turned the chance down because she felt the part was too small.

New Line Cinema tried to obtain old clips from the Friday the 13th movies to use at the start of "Freddy vs. Jason", but was unable to work out a deal with Paramount who owned the older Jason films.

Camp HackNSlash was a promotional one day/night 1980's summer camp experience presented by The Alamo Drafthouse, and Ain't It Cool News to celebrate the world premiere of "Freddy vs. Jason".

The event took place on Saturday, August 9th, 2003, in the small city of Driftwood, Texas, at Camp Ben McCulloch in a custom-made summer camp, set in the tree-lined wilderness a half-hour away from Austin, Texas out in the middle of literally nowhere.

Nearly over one thousand people from all over the world showed up for the all day, and all night event, and were required to wear a standard-issue blue "Camp HackNSlash " t-shirt, and white tube socks, courtesy of the organizers to be pulled to their knees, and then were entrusted to the care of red-shirted counselors and were divided into tribes, each with a camp counselor.

During the day there were many activities that included: Freddy and Jason coloring, Jason hockey mask, and Freddy glove making, Indian Leg Wresting, a hot dog eating contest, duct tape wallet making, s'mores, swimming, and tubing out in the lake, dizzy izzy, three legged races, water balloon toss's, sack races, egg toss's, nature walks, a snipe hunt, human fat candle-dipping, bong building, relay races, dodge ball, capture the flag, clay making, embroidery, skull bead making, archery, arts and crafts, singing, campfire stories, a tribal counsel, a bonfire, and a WHOLE more.

There was also a Freddy and Jason trivia contest which was made very interesting because the host asked the Jason fans, Freddy questions, and asked the Freddy fans, Jason questions. Then there was some Salt Lick BBQ served that evening, and then finally a special outdoor viewing of "Freddy vs. Jason" on a giant screen out in the middle of a large grassy field. Before the movie started, as the crowd eagerly awaited the film, the campers broke into competitive cheers of "Freddy" and "Jason".

A half-hour Q&A hosted by Harry Knowles followed the screening and both Robert Englund (Freddy Krueger) and Ken Kirzinger (Jason Voorhees) were joined by director Ronny Yu and producer Sean Cunningham to chat with the fans and answer questions.

After the stars left, the film "Sleepaway Camp", followed by the movie "Madman" were shown and the whole event would end with a viewing of "Wet Hot American Summer".

Because Robert Shaye opted for a more Nightmare on Elmstreet like story, hence it feels more like a Freddy film. Jason was given most of the kills as a pay off to the Jason fanbase at the cost of most of his higher brain functions from previous films. Jason was made out to be an angry mindless person in this film opposed to the juggernaut he was in previous films such as Friday the 13th part 7.

It is true that a film that had Jason as the central villain rather than Freddy would've been harder for film makers to create, and the film was made the only way it could be. However that does not change that it is in fact more of a Nightmare film.

One fan especially likes to use the fact that Jason gets most of the kills, that doesn't make it a hybrid type film.

Both characters were butchered so a extremely technical answer would be this is about 20% Friday film, 40% Nightmare film and 60% bunch of crap that you could call "Victims film".

Freddy Original Pros

Freddy's veteran player Robert England was allowed to return. Freddy keeps his glove and traditional Nightmare style attacks. Freddy keeps his basic look as far as wardrobe is concerned. Freddy's home of Elm Street is the center of the plot as are his intended victims. Freddy remains the main antagonist. Freddy if anything has gained brains.

Freddy New Pros

Freddy now has a more demonic form and thus seems to be far more powerful than before in the real world. Freddy has gained the ability to take complete control of people directly no longer only being able to move them. Freddy has gained the ability to take multiple hits from a large bladed weapon and survive things he normally couldn't.

Freddy Cons

His face is terrible when not in the demonic form, New Line really screwed him here. Freddy has been turned into a child molester as well as apparent racist. Freddy was given a single kill the entire movie. (Lucky for him it was one of the guys who wrote it.) Freddy has been given a ridiculous fear of fire. Freddy was the loser of the fight epic Freddy vs Jason film. (It can be argued, but in the end Jason is KNOWN to have gone on and done more.)



Jason Original Pros

Jason has retained his Hockey Mask. Jason is about 1/2 as invinvible as he was. Jason retains his machete. Jason has retained if not increased his strength. Jason still holds the highest body count for all slashers. Jason wins the fight.

Jason New Pros

I seriously can't think of a single new pro for this. If you can and want to feel free to put one here, just make sure it is true. The look is a matter of opinion. Ah here is one

Jason has two eyes.

Jason Cons

His look has been toned down as directly quoted by Ronny Yu the director "His eyes are sympahetic" Jason's arsenal has been down sized to a Machete. Jason's higher brain functions have been turned into that of a frightened retarded person. Jason has been given a ridiculous fear of water. Jason has lost about 1/2 of his invincibility, he takes an extreme amount of damage (True that he has since New Line acquired him so this could be a technical problem that New Line hadn't ironed out yet) Jason is damaged significantly by Freddy in the real world, yet Freddy couldn't damage him in the dream world.





Because it was. The setting was dominantly Elm Street, the story revolved around Freddy wanting back into the killing ground, Freddy was giving little to any weakness (If anything he was made more powerful than even the entity from "New Nightmare") and he was as many Freddy fans enjoy saying the "Puppet Master pulling Jason's strings." Jason was given a rediculous weakness to water, made to look sympathetic as quoted by Ronny Yu, and was greatly weakened mentally. (It is true Jason was originally confused at small things, but had repeatedly gained "Brains" as the series continued until New Line took over the rights.)

Another reason that it can be considered a Freddy film over a Jason film is the fact that Freddy's veteran actor Robert England was allowed to return whilst Kane Hodder the Jason veteran at the time wasn't allowed to return. Freddy fans will repeat that "Kane was hard to deal with in Jason X because he told the directors "Jason wouldn't do that. " and refused to do it their way." This is true, but it is also what had given Jason his distinct character all throughout the films after part seven.

Ronny Yu knew he'd argue that Jason was being treated unfairly (And he was) so he denied Kane Hodder's return and cast a "Taller" man as an excuse. Anyone can indeed read between the lines and it is obvious why Kane wasn't allowed to return. Like him or hate him, he did respect the Jason character.

Freddy has never been able to last as long as he did in Freddy Vs Jason within the real world. Against Jason who has the highest ranking kill number in all the slasher's alone shows Jason was treated less than he was supposed to be.

Yes.

One of the many endings that was considered for the film had Freddy and Jason battling to the death on the dock. After the explosion, they end up in the fiery lake, and then something strange starts to happen. The water begins to move, churning....and the lake begins to drain. Within the water, there is a hole that has opened at the bottom of the lake bed, glowing red. Freddy tries to swim away, but Jason puts a death lock on his ankle, and they're both dragged down.

The next day, Crystal Lake is completely dry, and Lori is reunited with her father. Then they walk down into the dry lake. Dr. Campbell sees Freddy's claw on the ground and he picks it up, vowing to destroy it for good. Then a red and green striped arm bursts through the earth, grabs Dr. Campbell's leg and pulls him down. With one leg buried in the ground, he screams for Lori, but is yanked again, his other leg breaking against his chest at an impossible angle. Then he's gone. Lori claws at the dirt for him, screaming.

Then there is a scene that takes place somewhere very dark. Freddy puts his claw back on his hand. He then has a look of fear on his face as he sees Jason near him, machete gleaming. They go at each other....but then, chains shoot out, slicing into both of them. They're separated, struggling to go at each other....when out from the darkness comes Pinhead and he says "Now gentlemen, what seems to be the problem?"

New Line didn't like the idea because they thought the film should only focus on Freddy and Jason. They also didn't like the fact that they'd have to buy the rights to use the Pinhead character, and since the more recent Hellraiser films at that time were going straight to DVD and VHS, they thought Pinhead was too B-rated. They also didn't want the movie ending with another studio's character dominating and controlling their characters.

Yes, actually. There was a similar ending that would have kinda been played out like the one above, however, instead of Freddy and Jason running into Pinhead, it'd be Satan himself they'd encounter.

Also, instead of Jason dragging Freddy down to Hell at the end, a giant red hand coming out of Crystal Lake was going to grab both Freddy and Jason in one enormous palm, and yank them both down into Hell.

Then after Freddy kills Dr. Campbell, and gets his claw back, and puts it back on in Hell, Freddy and Jason were to go after each other again. The fight was going to take place in the classic Hollywood type of Hell, and there was going to be a shot of someone sitting high atop a stone throne, with only eyes and the tips of two horns visible in the darkness.

Below it, Freddy and Jason would battle in a Gladiator style dark pit, surrounded by the eyes of a thousand dark demons, and a million tortured souls. The writers wanted to suggest that the fight would continue for all eternity.

However, the idea was dropped because it would have taken too much cash, and time to shoot it, and they thought Freddy and Jason should be the only two forces of evil shown in the film.

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