39 out of 40 people found the following comment useful :- Welles' slicing look at the downfall of a careless family parallels the film's treatment in 1942..., 20 May 1999
Author:
Donald J. Lamb from Philadelphia, PA
People may initially be thrown by the title MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS. Some
may
consider it a stuffy period piece before seeing it if they know only of
the
novel. Don't make this mistake if you have not witnessed this cinematic
milestone. The title, of course, is caustic and refers to the 19th
century
family sarcastically. Who else but the great Orson Welles could follow up
a
masterwork like CITIZEN KANE with such a cynical and important drama. The
"magnificence of the Ambersons" is neither grand, nor respectable. It is
tragic and doomed, epitomized by young "Georgie" (played by Tim Holt),
whose
main ambition in life is to be a yachtsmen. He is buried under the lore
of
his family name and he is headed towards his well-deserved "comeuppance".
The film itself, like many of Welles' great pictures, was absolutely
butchered by the studio (RKO Pictures) and destroyed the credibility of
the
young auteur. In many ways, the mess surrounding the film's release, the
tragedy and loss of the Ambersons, and the theme of modern technology
"taking over" all come together to leave all parties disappointed.
Disapproving moviegoers miscalculated the message, led the studio to make
the cuts behind Welles' back, and placed a lot of artists in some bad
situations. (For an excellent account of this truly remarkable story
behind
the film, read Joseph McBride's bio "Orson Welles") 50 minutes of film
were
burned, however, the 88 minutes left for us to see contain some
incredible,
even revolutionary moments.
Joseph Cotten plays his consummate "2nd place" character, a man unable to
have his real true love. (See THE THIRD MAN, NIAGARA) He is in love with
an
"Amberson" (probably the only righteous family member played by Dolores
Costello) but loses out to a more "respectable" man. The essential themes
of industrialism and change that will ruin the Amberson family stem from
Cotten's position as an inventor. He has created the horseless carriage,
or
automobile, however primitive, which is continuously trashed by the
hateful
"Georgie". Cotten's invention is part of the growth and change that many
families of the late 19th century may have ignored, only to have their
lives
passed over and fortunes lost. Plot elements aside, this central theme is
the powerful backbone that leads to the inevitable destruction of the
narrow-minded Tim Holt.
The latter aspects come across on screen so memorably because of Orson
Welles' continued experimentation with film. Incredible b & w
photography,
at first a hazy glow depicting the early prime years of the Ambersons,
then
a stark, dark force portraying shame and sadness, is amazing to see.
Overlapping dialogue is used even better here than in KANE and Welles'
narration is so omniscient and on the mark, relaying the town's thoughts
on
this once grand family. Long tracking shots throughout the constantly
changing town go unnoticed unless seen a couple of times. When you
realize
the passage of time through these devices, you will be in
awe.
Again, there is tragedy in both the film itself and its shoddy release and
treatment in 1942. If only Welles stayed in America at the time and
protected THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS from the long arm of the near-sighted
studio system, he may have had #'s 1 and 2 on the AFI's list of 100
Greatest
American films.
I think I'd give just about anything to see a restored version of this film,
like "Touch of Evil."
Its reputation is quite justified, however, and the top critics of today
have generally agreed that it's one of Welles' best efforts as director.
Some have even said that, scene for scene, it's a better film than "Citizen
Kane."
The opening montage, set to Welles' narration, is as good as anything of its
kind that's been done before or after -- brilliantly, and I hate to use that
word because it's so often overused, it achieves two things: 1) it sets up
the dramatic side of the story, with Eugene's fawning for and losing the
affections of Isabel, and 2) putting us in a specific, historical time and
place. The story of George Minafer's downfall parallels the changing times
of America during that time, as well as American aristocracy.
Then there's Agnes Moorehead, who does the most amazing work as Fanny
Minafer, George's aunt. She's a pressure cooker to begin with, but when the
Ambersons hit rock-bottom she lets go, in a torrential, hysterical
performance that's still getting praise today.
"The Magnificent Ambersons" also carries an equally dramatic story of
Hollywood's assault on artistic expression; almost everyone knows that RKO
seized the film and cut it to pieces while Welles was out doing his
documentary "It's All True." Today there's other ways for great directors
(Kubrick, Altman) to dodge the system, but film stock and equipment in those
days could only be procured from big studios, and for the remainder of
Welles' career his genius would only be seen fleetingly (his adaptations of
Shakespeare, Kafka's "The Trial"). It's a story as tragic as George
Minafer's.
23 out of 28 people found the following comment useful :- What might have been..., 19 April 1999
Author:
Joseph Harder (jah5y@virginia.edu) from warren michigan
The fate of this almost magnificent film must rank as one of the
greatest tragedies in the history of the cinema. viewing it in its present
state is like looking at the Venus Di Milo, or at a beautiful Greek vase
that has been shattered. One can only admire the fragments...and what
gorgeous fragments they are: Major Ambersons heartbreaking meditation by the
fireplace,the quarrel between Eugene Morgan and Georgie about the
Automobile, Isabel's death, Agnes Moorehead's magnificent performance, the
splendor of the Amberson mansion, and the ballroom scene. Perhaps someday,
some powerful computer might be able to reconstruct the missing footage from
stills and from Welles script...perhaps. Until that almost impossible
moment, one can only envy the handful of men and women who were able to see
it whole, and to understand what they were seeing.
16 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :- Irony in the ending, 15 April 2004
Author:
dave-302 from New Jersey
This is a wonderful film, one of great pathos and sensitivity. Orson
Welles
was drawn to Tarkington's novel because Tarkington had been a friend of
Welles' father and Welles identified strongly with the story, seeing
something of his own family's history there.
Whether it is better than Kane is a fun question for film clubs to debate
(I
did once but I don't now), but it is interesting to note that while Orson
Welles was particularly bitter that RKO re-shot his ending to make it more
appealing to audiences, if you read the novel you will see that it is the
novel's ending that RKO tacked on. Welles' ending was of his own
invention
and would have given the film a completely different tone.
So it is ironic that Welles always seemed to claim that RKO had destroyed
the integrity of the novel's story when they only preserved it, if rather
poorly in execution.
18 out of 22 people found the following comment useful :- The Most Beautful American Movie Ever Made, 26 February 2005
Author:
David (Handlinghandel) from NY, NY
If one could have a single wish regarding movie history, surely it
would be the rediscovery of the nearly one hour cut out of what seem to
be all existing prints of this! Even with the tampering, it is a
gorgeous movie. To me, it is superior to "Citizen Kane." Wells himself
was partially at fault for its being butchered: Had he stayed in the
United States and not pursued a new, eventually unfulfilled dream, he
surely could have fought RKO.
The narration by Welles at the beginning is like the dream storytelling
of any child or young person. The words so beautiful, the tones so calm
and mellifluous! And the final credits, in which he reads the crew and
then the cast, are astonishingly moving.
In between is a touching story that is acted and filmed with rare
integrity. Dolores Costello is a haunting presence. Agnes Moorhead, as
the Neurotic aunt, gives a performance rarely equaled in movie history.
Stanley Cortez was cinematographer for three great movies (and many
other fine ones): "The Magnificent Ambersons," "Night of the Hunter,"
and "The Naked Kiss." Each relies strongly on its look and Cortez
created three very different, memorable canvases.
One fan hope against hope that the lost footage turns up in someone's
basement, unlikely as that is. Even so, once seen this movie is never
forgotten.
11 out of 13 people found the following comment useful :- A marvellous portrait of a by-gone era, 12 March 2002
Author:
nqure from North Wales, UK
As most reviewers have stated, Welles' film suffered at the hands of studio
interference and it is to the film's credit that, despite such butchery, it
still remains a marvellous piece of entertainment.
The emotional story revolves around family relationships, about love denied,
unrequited or made to suffer. It is also a social portrait of the failure
of one family to come to terms with progress (symbolised by the motor car in
the film).
Tim Holt is excellent as George Minafer and I think we are meant to view him
ambivalently: he is both a loveable ne'er do well as well as a spoiled
egotist who puts his emotions/feelings before everyone else's. Agnes
Moorehead deservedly won praise for her portrait of the plain Aunt Fanny.
Her final disintegration (blackly comic when George thinks she's scalding
herself at a hot boiler only to be told that there's no water due to their
reduced circumstances) mirrors the descent of the Ambersons into obscurity
and genteel poverty. The only memory of their faded glory is in the names
they give to the new roads leading to the suburbs.
As with Citizen Kane', wealth does not always protect people from
unhappiness. And it's interesting to note how the Amberson's huge mansion,
once the social centre of town with its balls & serenades, becomes an empty
derelict monument to a by-gone age.
In a sense, the whole film is ambivalent. You can't stop progress as Eugene
(Joseph Cotton) states in the dramatic scene where he & George clash over
motor cars, but Gene is also aware that things might not necessarily change
for the better. Life will become faster etc. After George receives his
comeuppance, I quite liked the symbolic irony of him falling victim to a
car accident.
Finally, it would be nice if production companies could have the courage of
their convictions and actually left capable, intelligent directors to make
films without interfering with their vision. Prod companies are still
obsessed with preview viewings and initial reactions to films. Yes,
sometimes a film might need altering, and most studios want a decent return
on their investment but it would be good if they could keep faith even if a
film receives an initially hostile reaction. Many great works of art have
been initially misunderstood; and great films, like great art, stand the
test of time.
11 out of 15 people found the following comment useful :- Marvellous work, but sadly suffers from limited time, 11 March 2003
Author:
Ccmcr1 from Scotland
This is the tale of a well-known and respected American family - "The
Magnificent Ambersons" and their rise and fall. The movie is not bad at all,
there are some superlative performances from stars and character players
alike. However, it is a sad fact that this, Orson Wells second masterpiece,
suffered from the scissors in the cutting room. Being an RKO/Mercury Theatre
production, executives reduced the picture from a much-required 135 minutes
to a satisfactory, but a speedy 88 minutes, therefore, not giving
satisfactory time for the viewer to understand the masterpiece
fully.
Now, for my review of the players. Joseph Cotten gives an irregular
performance as the romantic lead, silent star Dolores Costello is very much
underused, as is then very young Anne Baxter, who would could onto bigger
stardom in the next decade. Stealing the acting honors throughout the
production are Tim Holt with his superb portrayal of the spoiled brat
heir-to-the-throne, so to speak and Agnes Moorehead as his Auntie, who put
their plan into action to sabotage a relationship between the widowed
Isbabelle Amberson and charmer Eugene Morgan.
Overall, lives up to it's expectations of success, but suffers due to
limited screen time and a very confusing plot for audiences of our
generation.
7/10
7 out of 8 people found the following comment useful :- Space Jazz, Mind Dance, 30 December 2005
Author:
tedg (tedg@FilmsFolded.com) from Virginia Beach
In this part of his career, Welles was interested in a few things.
Thankfully we don't need the completed project to at least see what
they were. And the understanding of them is probably more important
than experiencing a coherent survey, as this was.
He's interested in surrounding a narrative, in giving it to us from all
sides. He does this in narrative styles. In "Kane" he had narrators
inside and outside the story, newsreels, newspapers, mysterious
unfoldings, anticipated long events, and anticipated short ones.
He does it in the eye as well, having the camera surround and probe.
And he plays these two off of each other, creating one sort of rhythm
in the eye, another in the shifts of narrative, yet more in the
physical movements on screen and finally in the emotional tides. Each
of these is innovative, but together they become metacharacters in a
sort of cinematic jazz. Oddly, the metaphor doesn't include the score
itself for Welles, the one thing that has become a common skill today.
Now if we had the whole project, we'd get all the variations and pace
in his jazz composition. As it is now, all we get are phrases, some
broken a bit.
Just settle on one that you suppose hasn't been tampered with, say the
sleigh/car encounter in the snow and revel in that for a few viewings,
one after the other. It is absolutely amazing what interplay these
elements have. And in this case we really do have some music: the
players singing.
I suggest you play it again and again until you get it. Believe me, it
will change your life when you can see this mind dance.
I would rather have the pieces because they have such a perfect logic
and dance, you can imagine the rest. It baffles me that some people
think Welles just innovated in camera angles and lighting. No, he
created a whole higher level of drama.
Van Gogh painted a starry sky. It is, in effect two paintings in one.
We have the beauty of the sky. And we have the beauty of the dabs and
strokes of paint on the canvas, a sort of metapainting. The two dance
around each other in a way that is magical. Welles did the same here
and in "Kane." Afterward, he busted other walls.
Oh, and within the story, he uses automobiles as a metaphor to muse on
the effect of this new metadrama compared to his home in the simpler
theater. He wonders if we will be better off once what he does catches
on.
Ted's Evaluation -- 3 of 3: Worth watching.
20 out of 34 people found the following comment useful :- Better Than Kane, 13 March 2003
Author:
wrenster from United Kingdom
I have never seen the appeal of Citizen Kane. I can understand why the
critics keep picking it as the Greatest Movie of All Time, because
technically it is way advanced in its years, but the film itself is dull and
very boring. Which is why I went to watch The Magnificent Ambersons with a
tentative approach. But I was pleasantly surprised.
This is a far more interesting movie than Kane. A story that is both moving
and funny. I loved the opening sequence with the look at the change of
fashion (and using Joseph Cotton as the model works wonders). But it
captured the mood of a time when the automobile was an unknown quantity, as
well as a story of family and personal jealousy.
The cast is excellent, especially Tim Holt as George, a character who is so
nasty, he makes the current screen evils look like teddy bears. The scene
when he turns Joseph Cotton away from seeing his mother was magnificently
played.
Technically it's as interesting as Kane, but Orson Welles holds back,
doesn't need to be so flashy, but instead, lets the story do the work, and
it works. The title sums up the movie. Magnificent!
5 out of 5 people found the following comment useful :- Magnificent (Lost) Masterpiece. (minor spoilers), 24 July 2004
Author:
pjapproved from Bergen, Norway
*** This comment may contain spoilers ***
This is by far one of the best films ever made. Or at least, it could
have been. This drama adapted by Welles, from Booth Tarkington's novel
about a troubled family at the turn of the 20th century, contains great
characters, set-decoration and cinematography. By watching it I'm both
stunned and sad at the same time thinking about what this movie could
have been, if it hadn't been taken out of Welles' hands. Re-cutting and
re-shooting this film is probably the greatest mistake a studio has
ever done. The remaining pieces ( 88min. out of approx 145min.) still
has a great punch to them. Welles' clever camera-setups and powerful
direction, matches his previous film, Kane, in every way. The conflict
within the family are explored by great dialog and acting by it's cast.
Don't miss this one. ps. sorry, my English is not that good......
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39 out of 40 people found the following comment useful :-

Welles' slicing look at the downfall of a careless family parallels the film's treatment in 1942..., 20 May 1999
Author: Donald J. Lamb from Philadelphia, PA
People may initially be thrown by the title MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS. Some may consider it a stuffy period piece before seeing it if they know only of the novel. Don't make this mistake if you have not witnessed this cinematic milestone. The title, of course, is caustic and refers to the 19th century family sarcastically. Who else but the great Orson Welles could follow up a masterwork like CITIZEN KANE with such a cynical and important drama. The "magnificence of the Ambersons" is neither grand, nor respectable. It is tragic and doomed, epitomized by young "Georgie" (played by Tim Holt), whose main ambition in life is to be a yachtsmen. He is buried under the lore of his family name and he is headed towards his well-deserved "comeuppance".
The film itself, like many of Welles' great pictures, was absolutely butchered by the studio (RKO Pictures) and destroyed the credibility of the young auteur. In many ways, the mess surrounding the film's release, the tragedy and loss of the Ambersons, and the theme of modern technology "taking over" all come together to leave all parties disappointed. Disapproving moviegoers miscalculated the message, led the studio to make the cuts behind Welles' back, and placed a lot of artists in some bad situations. (For an excellent account of this truly remarkable story behind the film, read Joseph McBride's bio "Orson Welles") 50 minutes of film were burned, however, the 88 minutes left for us to see contain some incredible, even revolutionary moments.
Joseph Cotten plays his consummate "2nd place" character, a man unable to have his real true love. (See THE THIRD MAN, NIAGARA) He is in love with an "Amberson" (probably the only righteous family member played by Dolores Costello) but loses out to a more "respectable" man. The essential themes of industrialism and change that will ruin the Amberson family stem from Cotten's position as an inventor. He has created the horseless carriage, or automobile, however primitive, which is continuously trashed by the hateful "Georgie". Cotten's invention is part of the growth and change that many families of the late 19th century may have ignored, only to have their lives passed over and fortunes lost. Plot elements aside, this central theme is the powerful backbone that leads to the inevitable destruction of the narrow-minded Tim Holt.
The latter aspects come across on screen so memorably because of Orson Welles' continued experimentation with film. Incredible b & w photography, at first a hazy glow depicting the early prime years of the Ambersons, then a stark, dark force portraying shame and sadness, is amazing to see. Overlapping dialogue is used even better here than in KANE and Welles' narration is so omniscient and on the mark, relaying the town's thoughts on this once grand family. Long tracking shots throughout the constantly changing town go unnoticed unless seen a couple of times. When you realize the passage of time through these devices, you will be in awe.
Again, there is tragedy in both the film itself and its shoddy release and treatment in 1942. If only Welles stayed in America at the time and protected THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS from the long arm of the near-sighted studio system, he may have had #'s 1 and 2 on the AFI's list of 100 Greatest American films.
26 out of 28 people found the following comment useful :-
Magnificent is right, 29 July 1999
Author: Jaime N. Christley (j_christley@hotmail.com) from NAS Whidbey Island, WA
I think I'd give just about anything to see a restored version of this film, like "Touch of Evil."
Its reputation is quite justified, however, and the top critics of today have generally agreed that it's one of Welles' best efforts as director. Some have even said that, scene for scene, it's a better film than "Citizen Kane."
The opening montage, set to Welles' narration, is as good as anything of its kind that's been done before or after -- brilliantly, and I hate to use that word because it's so often overused, it achieves two things: 1) it sets up the dramatic side of the story, with Eugene's fawning for and losing the affections of Isabel, and 2) putting us in a specific, historical time and place. The story of George Minafer's downfall parallels the changing times of America during that time, as well as American aristocracy.
Then there's Agnes Moorehead, who does the most amazing work as Fanny Minafer, George's aunt. She's a pressure cooker to begin with, but when the Ambersons hit rock-bottom she lets go, in a torrential, hysterical performance that's still getting praise today.
"The Magnificent Ambersons" also carries an equally dramatic story of Hollywood's assault on artistic expression; almost everyone knows that RKO seized the film and cut it to pieces while Welles was out doing his documentary "It's All True." Today there's other ways for great directors (Kubrick, Altman) to dodge the system, but film stock and equipment in those days could only be procured from big studios, and for the remainder of Welles' career his genius would only be seen fleetingly (his adaptations of Shakespeare, Kafka's "The Trial"). It's a story as tragic as George Minafer's.
23 out of 28 people found the following comment useful :-

What might have been..., 19 April 1999
Author: Joseph Harder (jah5y@virginia.edu) from warren michigan
The fate of this almost magnificent film must rank as one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the cinema. viewing it in its present state is like looking at the Venus Di Milo, or at a beautiful Greek vase that has been shattered. One can only admire the fragments...and what gorgeous fragments they are: Major Ambersons heartbreaking meditation by the fireplace,the quarrel between Eugene Morgan and Georgie about the Automobile, Isabel's death, Agnes Moorehead's magnificent performance, the splendor of the Amberson mansion, and the ballroom scene. Perhaps someday, some powerful computer might be able to reconstruct the missing footage from stills and from Welles script...perhaps. Until that almost impossible moment, one can only envy the handful of men and women who were able to see it whole, and to understand what they were seeing.
16 out of 18 people found the following comment useful :-
Irony in the ending, 15 April 2004
Author: dave-302 from New Jersey
This is a wonderful film, one of great pathos and sensitivity. Orson Welles was drawn to Tarkington's novel because Tarkington had been a friend of Welles' father and Welles identified strongly with the story, seeing something of his own family's history there.
Whether it is better than Kane is a fun question for film clubs to debate (I did once but I don't now), but it is interesting to note that while Orson Welles was particularly bitter that RKO re-shot his ending to make it more appealing to audiences, if you read the novel you will see that it is the novel's ending that RKO tacked on. Welles' ending was of his own invention and would have given the film a completely different tone.
So it is ironic that Welles always seemed to claim that RKO had destroyed the integrity of the novel's story when they only preserved it, if rather poorly in execution.
18 out of 22 people found the following comment useful :-

The Most Beautful American Movie Ever Made, 26 February 2005
Author: David (Handlinghandel) from NY, NY
If one could have a single wish regarding movie history, surely it would be the rediscovery of the nearly one hour cut out of what seem to be all existing prints of this! Even with the tampering, it is a gorgeous movie. To me, it is superior to "Citizen Kane." Wells himself was partially at fault for its being butchered: Had he stayed in the United States and not pursued a new, eventually unfulfilled dream, he surely could have fought RKO.
The narration by Welles at the beginning is like the dream storytelling of any child or young person. The words so beautiful, the tones so calm and mellifluous! And the final credits, in which he reads the crew and then the cast, are astonishingly moving.
In between is a touching story that is acted and filmed with rare integrity. Dolores Costello is a haunting presence. Agnes Moorhead, as the Neurotic aunt, gives a performance rarely equaled in movie history.
Stanley Cortez was cinematographer for three great movies (and many other fine ones): "The Magnificent Ambersons," "Night of the Hunter," and "The Naked Kiss." Each relies strongly on its look and Cortez created three very different, memorable canvases.
One fan hope against hope that the lost footage turns up in someone's basement, unlikely as that is. Even so, once seen this movie is never forgotten.
11 out of 13 people found the following comment useful :-

A marvellous portrait of a by-gone era, 12 March 2002
Author: nqure from North Wales, UK
As most reviewers have stated, Welles' film suffered at the hands of studio interference and it is to the film's credit that, despite such butchery, it still remains a marvellous piece of entertainment.
The emotional story revolves around family relationships, about love denied, unrequited or made to suffer. It is also a social portrait of the failure of one family to come to terms with progress (symbolised by the motor car in the film).
Tim Holt is excellent as George Minafer and I think we are meant to view him ambivalently: he is both a loveable ne'er do well as well as a spoiled egotist who puts his emotions/feelings before everyone else's. Agnes Moorehead deservedly won praise for her portrait of the plain Aunt Fanny. Her final disintegration (blackly comic when George thinks she's scalding herself at a hot boiler only to be told that there's no water due to their reduced circumstances) mirrors the descent of the Ambersons into obscurity and genteel poverty. The only memory of their faded glory is in the names they give to the new roads leading to the suburbs.
As with Citizen Kane', wealth does not always protect people from unhappiness. And it's interesting to note how the Amberson's huge mansion, once the social centre of town with its balls & serenades, becomes an empty derelict monument to a by-gone age.
In a sense, the whole film is ambivalent. You can't stop progress as Eugene (Joseph Cotton) states in the dramatic scene where he & George clash over motor cars, but Gene is also aware that things might not necessarily change for the better. Life will become faster etc. After George receives his comeuppance, I quite liked the symbolic irony of him falling victim to a car accident.
Finally, it would be nice if production companies could have the courage of their convictions and actually left capable, intelligent directors to make films without interfering with their vision. Prod companies are still obsessed with preview viewings and initial reactions to films. Yes, sometimes a film might need altering, and most studios want a decent return on their investment but it would be good if they could keep faith even if a film receives an initially hostile reaction. Many great works of art have been initially misunderstood; and great films, like great art, stand the test of time.
11 out of 15 people found the following comment useful :-
Marvellous work, but sadly suffers from limited time, 11 March 2003
Author: Ccmcr1 from Scotland
This is the tale of a well-known and respected American family - "The Magnificent Ambersons" and their rise and fall. The movie is not bad at all, there are some superlative performances from stars and character players alike. However, it is a sad fact that this, Orson Wells second masterpiece, suffered from the scissors in the cutting room. Being an RKO/Mercury Theatre production, executives reduced the picture from a much-required 135 minutes to a satisfactory, but a speedy 88 minutes, therefore, not giving satisfactory time for the viewer to understand the masterpiece fully.
Now, for my review of the players. Joseph Cotten gives an irregular performance as the romantic lead, silent star Dolores Costello is very much underused, as is then very young Anne Baxter, who would could onto bigger stardom in the next decade. Stealing the acting honors throughout the production are Tim Holt with his superb portrayal of the spoiled brat heir-to-the-throne, so to speak and Agnes Moorehead as his Auntie, who put their plan into action to sabotage a relationship between the widowed Isbabelle Amberson and charmer Eugene Morgan.
Overall, lives up to it's expectations of success, but suffers due to limited screen time and a very confusing plot for audiences of our generation.
7/10
7 out of 8 people found the following comment useful :-
Space Jazz, Mind Dance, 30 December 2005
Author: tedg (tedg@FilmsFolded.com) from Virginia Beach
In this part of his career, Welles was interested in a few things. Thankfully we don't need the completed project to at least see what they were. And the understanding of them is probably more important than experiencing a coherent survey, as this was.
He's interested in surrounding a narrative, in giving it to us from all sides. He does this in narrative styles. In "Kane" he had narrators inside and outside the story, newsreels, newspapers, mysterious unfoldings, anticipated long events, and anticipated short ones.
He does it in the eye as well, having the camera surround and probe. And he plays these two off of each other, creating one sort of rhythm in the eye, another in the shifts of narrative, yet more in the physical movements on screen and finally in the emotional tides. Each of these is innovative, but together they become metacharacters in a sort of cinematic jazz. Oddly, the metaphor doesn't include the score itself for Welles, the one thing that has become a common skill today.
Now if we had the whole project, we'd get all the variations and pace in his jazz composition. As it is now, all we get are phrases, some broken a bit.
Just settle on one that you suppose hasn't been tampered with, say the sleigh/car encounter in the snow and revel in that for a few viewings, one after the other. It is absolutely amazing what interplay these elements have. And in this case we really do have some music: the players singing.
I suggest you play it again and again until you get it. Believe me, it will change your life when you can see this mind dance.
I would rather have the pieces because they have such a perfect logic and dance, you can imagine the rest. It baffles me that some people think Welles just innovated in camera angles and lighting. No, he created a whole higher level of drama.
Van Gogh painted a starry sky. It is, in effect two paintings in one. We have the beauty of the sky. And we have the beauty of the dabs and strokes of paint on the canvas, a sort of metapainting. The two dance around each other in a way that is magical. Welles did the same here and in "Kane." Afterward, he busted other walls.
Oh, and within the story, he uses automobiles as a metaphor to muse on the effect of this new metadrama compared to his home in the simpler theater. He wonders if we will be better off once what he does catches on.
Ted's Evaluation -- 3 of 3: Worth watching.
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Better Than Kane, 13 March 2003
Author: wrenster from United Kingdom
I have never seen the appeal of Citizen Kane. I can understand why the critics keep picking it as the Greatest Movie of All Time, because technically it is way advanced in its years, but the film itself is dull and very boring. Which is why I went to watch The Magnificent Ambersons with a tentative approach. But I was pleasantly surprised.
This is a far more interesting movie than Kane. A story that is both moving and funny. I loved the opening sequence with the look at the change of fashion (and using Joseph Cotton as the model works wonders). But it captured the mood of a time when the automobile was an unknown quantity, as well as a story of family and personal jealousy.
The cast is excellent, especially Tim Holt as George, a character who is so nasty, he makes the current screen evils look like teddy bears. The scene when he turns Joseph Cotton away from seeing his mother was magnificently played.
Technically it's as interesting as Kane, but Orson Welles holds back, doesn't need to be so flashy, but instead, lets the story do the work, and it works. The title sums up the movie. Magnificent!
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Magnificent (Lost) Masterpiece. (minor spoilers), 24 July 2004
Author: pjapproved from Bergen, Norway
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This is by far one of the best films ever made. Or at least, it could have been. This drama adapted by Welles, from Booth Tarkington's novel about a troubled family at the turn of the 20th century, contains great characters, set-decoration and cinematography. By watching it I'm both stunned and sad at the same time thinking about what this movie could have been, if it hadn't been taken out of Welles' hands. Re-cutting and re-shooting this film is probably the greatest mistake a studio has ever done. The remaining pieces ( 88min. out of approx 145min.) still has a great punch to them. Welles' clever camera-setups and powerful direction, matches his previous film, Kane, in every way. The conflict within the family are explored by great dialog and acting by it's cast. Don't miss this one. ps. sorry, my English is not that good......
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