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I just had to comment on this one., 14 September 2004
Author: Scaramouche2004 from Coventry, England

I recently purchased this film on a special triple bill DVD from an overly cheap discount store, in fact it was so cheap that the three movie disc cost me just one single pound of my hard earned British currency.

This film was both fantastic and atrocious in one. An exciting plot, but with laughable performances from the entire cast.

We know that all great actors have to start somewhere and the lone star westerns of the early thirties were what John 'The Duke' Wayne cut his teeth on.

To look at his work in his final film The Shootist in 1976, you can see just how much he had learnt over his 40 years in the business and what a great actor he did eventually become, but to look at his performances in these early days, you can understand why he spent most of the 1930's in relative obscurity.

Although Wayne looks uncomfortable throughout most of these films and his acting is wooden to say the least, it can't all be blamed on him.

These movies were the product of their day and cannot be judged by todays standards. Intended only as supporting features, these long forgotten studios turned out these 'B' movies by the shed load. Badly formed scripts with badly shaped characters must have poured though these fledgling studios like water through a hoop and with a stock company of actors who's style was still formed in the pantomime silent era, they were bound to be a bit cheesy. In fact if in 1933 there were Oscars awarded for the greatest achievement in over acting then this would be the motion picture with greatest ever hoard.

Wayne's character is a notorious gunman with a name that must have put the fear of God into whoever crossed his path, Singing Sandy Saunders.

Laugh? I damn near wet my pants.

And if that wasn't enough to give me the biggest gut wrencher of the century, then George 'Gabby' Hayes certainly iced the cake.

After an appalling song that sounded like two cats fighting over a piece of fish in a metal barrel, the great Gabby uttered the line, "Mmmm. I could listen to that all night." The line itself is worthy of side stitching surgery, but the look of peace and serenity on his face was just too much for the old chuckle muscles which then went on to explode.

I can honestly say that a truly inspired and well written comedy has never made me laugh as much as this film did.

However the story is a good one, with the corrupt businessman holding the town's ranchers to ransom over his monopoly in the water market with a view of buying up all the farms etc.

It survives today as nothing more than a nostalgic glimpse into the past, not only at a bygone era in cinema making, but as a chance to see a real Hollywood legend finding his feet. This alone makes it worth every penny of the thirty-three pence I in effect paid for it.

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"You suppose you could, eh, go in and tell her you like her biscuits or somethin'...", 18 November 2006
6/10
Author: classicsoncall from United States

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The good news is that "Riders of Destiny" just might be the best of John Wayne's Westerns for producer Paul Malvern's Lone Star Productions. The bad news would be that this was the first one, meaning that all the rest went downhill from here. Now don't get me wrong, I'm a 'B' Western fan from way back, but if you get a chance to view any of these, you'll have to take them with a good ole boy grain of nostalgia and an appreciation for simpler times.

Actually, "Rider of Destiny" might have been the better title, since it's Wayne's show all the way. He portrays Singin' Sandy Saunders and has a reputation as the most notorious gunman since Billy the Kid. That's somewhat ironic though, since it's later revealed that he's a special Secret Service agent sent from Washington to investigate a land swindle scheme under the direction of town boss James Kincaid (Forrest Taylor). How would he have earned that nickname having just arrived? Some other bits don't quite jive as well, like Saunders' finesse with a six gun. In the only actual one on one showdown with a villain that I can recall in a Lone Star, Saunders neatly places a bullet in each wrist of Slip Morgan (Earl Dwire), thereby making him a threat no more to righteous folks. One wonders how he might have learned to shoot like that.

But you know what. It doesn't make too much of a difference, because if you're a fan of these oaters, you'll have a blast with this one as much as all the rest. You've got your crazy horse spills, wild stage coach rides, and villainous intrigue to pull it all together. You also have your obligatory romantic leading lady, here portrayed by Cecilia Parker. Her character is Fay Denton, daughter of George (pre-Gabby) Hayes, and she signals her interest in Saunders right from the get go. He helps things along by serenading her with a few songs with Daddy present, and boy, they just can't get enough, even if his singing voice is nothing at all like his speaking voice.

Yakima Canutt is on hand as an unnamed Kincaid henchman, and of course it's Yak that's responsible for all the daring stunt work, including that trademark 'jump on the horse team and go under the stagecoach' trick, simply remarkable if you consider the timing and logistics involved. His fellow baddies include a comedic pair of stage drivers also working for Kincaid, Bert and Elmer (Al St. John and Heinie Conklin). It would be a few years before Al becomes 'Fuzzy'.

Modern day viewers might be left scratching their head over a line spoken by Wayne's character early in the film. When he discovers sheriff Bill Baxter wandering in the desert with a bullet wound, he tends him while adding - "I'll have you in Starbucks before night".

A lot has been debated over who the singer was who dubbed Wayne's voice in this movie and "The Man From Utah". A couple reviewers on this board credit old time band leader and crooner Smith Ballew, although Ballew himself denied it consistently until he passed away. The odds on favorite seems to be Bill Bradbury, son of director Robert North Bradbury, and twin brother of another era cowboy star, Bob Steele. Bill had a fine baritone voice, and used his talent to make some extra money while going to medical school. For anyone who cares to learn more about the controversy, check out the following page - http://www.b-westerns.com/jwayne1.htm You'll have to scroll down to the bottom part of the page, and it's a good read.

Anyway, for old time Western fans, "Riders of Destiny" is as good a place as any to see how John Wayne learned his craft. Hard to believe that by the time he made his breakout film "Stagecoach" to become an overnight success, he already had fifty one movies to his credit! Only one question remains though while watching 'Riders' - where were all those geese hanging out when there wasn't any water around?

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Singing Sandy Saunders Sends 'Em to Jail, 3 May 2006
6/10
Author: bkoganbing from Buffalo, New York

Had the good folks at Lone Star Productions only decided not to dub John Wayne's voice with some forgettable cowboy ballads this would have been a far better western than it turned out to be.

Of course Wayne in later years would cringe at the mention of these films. If you want a good idea of how he really sounded listen to him in McLintock singing a favorite ballad of his, The Moon Shines Tonight on Pretty Redwing. The Lone Star people might have even looked for a young band singer working day to day in clubs in New Jersey around this time named Frank Sinatra who over 30 years later actually had his voice come out of Wayne's mouth during a Dean Martin show.

If they could have cut out the singing gimmick, Riders of Destiny is not a bad film, in fact a cut above some of the westerns the Duke was doing at the time. Ranchers in the valley are being squeezed out by a greedy villain played by Forrest Taylor. He's built a dam and controls all the water and it's either sell to him outright or pay his exorbitant prices for water. Gabby Hayes and his daughter Cecelia Parker happen to have the only other water around because they dug a well. Taylor especially wants their land.

The citizens have written to the federal government in Washington for intervention and they get it in the form of John Wayne. I don't think I have to go any farther. The Duke finds a very clever solution for the water problem which you should see the film to find out.

But don't lose your lunch hearing that Nelson Eddy wannabe voice coming out of Mr. Wayne's mouth.

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Strangely addictive, 24 February 2004
Author: alan-morton from UK

At the risk of sounding like a complete anorak, I have to confess to a deep affection for John Wayne's Lone Star westerns. Every one has a mighty fine title, usually nothing much to do with the story being told. They have that addictive quality that other people find in today's soap operas. In both types, the plots are familiar and preposterous, the characters are off-the-peg, the acting is poor, the heroines are pretty, and the leading man looks good (especially on a horse in J.W.'s case).

Of all J.W.'s Lone Star films, this one is my favourite. It has all the virtues listed above, maybe not as developed as in some of the later films, but there nevertheless. I particularly enjoy the way a character is introduced in the first reel, made to disappear for most of the film, and reintroduced at the end. The heroine is delightful in jodhpurs, and the bad guy simply looks dastardly in them. Then there are the pistols that seemingly are deadly at several hundred yards. And an important prop is what I take to be a genuine stagecoach.

But this film has notable extras: "interesting" singing, some truly exciting stunt work, and a remarkably lyrical climax that I don't think Robert N Banbury ever came close to emulating again. It's so good that you'd almost believe that Ingmar Bergman had seen this film and been inspired by it as he started on Virgin Spring.

Note to students of film: it's probably a bad idea to try that suggestion on your teacher!

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Introducing "Singin" Sandy Saunders, 6 February 2001
4/10
Author: (bsmith5552@rogers.com) from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

"Riders of Destiny" was the first of several westerns Wayne made for the Lone Star arm of Monogram Pictures between 1933 and 1935. In this entry, the producers try to make the Duke into a singing cowboy called "Singin' Sandy Saunders with hilarious results. Any Wayne fan knows that the Duke couldn't have carried a tune if his life had depended on it. His voice was apparently dubbed by Smith Ballew whose deep baritone sounds nothing like Wayne. Wayne looks awkward and uncomfortable in "performing" the musical numbers. Thank heavens the singing cowboy experiment soon ended.

As for the movie itself, it contains a standard "B" western plot of the fight over water rights between the villain (Forrest Taylor) and the local ranchers. Duke, of course plays the hero. He had not yet developed his on screen character and still looked like a poverty row cowboy.

Also cast in the film were George (pre-Gabby) Hayes as the heroine's father, Cecilia Parker as the heroine and Yakima Canutt as "one of the boys" who performs his "falling from the racing horses under the wagon" stunt while doubling Wayne. Both Canutt and Hayes would go on to appear with Wayne in most of the other entries in the series. Canutt, in particular would have a profound effect on Wayne's future development teaching him, among other things, how to move, fight and look comfortable on a horse.

As "B" westerns go this one isn't too bad, however, I have to give it a failing grade because of the "singing".

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Duke Wayne and King Canutt, 3 August 2005
Author: JoeytheBrit from www.moviemoviesite.com

Another generically titled western programmer from the impoverished Lone Star stable, this one features strapping John Wayne as Singin' Sandy Saunders no less, who is introduced to us as he warbles to the sky at a pitch that would have probably put paid to any hopes he had of siring little Dukes (dukelets?) had the voice really been his. Unlike some others, I don't know who dubbed the Duke and, quite frankly, I don't really care – just as long as I don't stumble across his pained caterwauling in any other cheap flicks. Even Wayne must have been able to do better.

This flick, one of Wayne's earliest for Lone Star, features a passable plot (the quality of Wayne's material with the studio seemed to grow weaker with each passing film) that has him playing a government agent despatched to investigate a crooked businessman's exploitation of water rights in a small western town. Before he even reaches the town, he bumps into its sheriff wandering the desert with a bullet in his back, a couple of the businessman's comedy henchmen, and a platinum blonde (the impossibly cute Cecilia Parker) who has just held up a stage coach. The comedy henchmen are about as funny as a broken fingernail, but Forrest Taylor makes an agreeably oily bad guy and Cecilia Parker is an impossibly cute heroine.

Where the movie excels is in the stunt department thanks once again to Yakima Canutt, who spent most of the 30s doubling for Wayne and many other cowboy stars. For years I have been labouring under the misapprehension that Canutt was a diminutive Japanese gentleman, only to discover with the viewing of the Lone Star flicks that he's actually as American as… well, John Wayne. Yakima isn't Japanese for Fred or Bert after all, it's a town in Washington! Anyway, in this film he performs the 'crawling around under a speeding stagecoach' trick that would become famous when he repeated it for STAGECOACH six years later. Watching these films must have been close to a surreal experience for Canutt at times. How often, I wonder, did he watch himself fleeing a crime on horseback in one scene only to see himself leaping onto a horse in the guise of the Duke to give chase in the next?

By the way, did I mention how impossibly cute Cecilia Parker was? She bakes cookies too…

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Remarkably good, one of directors' best, great cast, 17 August 1999
Author: Michael Morrison from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

This movie is surprisingly good. Director Robert North Bradbury, actor Bob Steele's father, did some of his best work here.

There is an attention to detail in this film that is missing from too many B Westerns.

The cast is top flight, with John Wayne, even this early, showing that personality that led him to become the single most popular movie star in the history of Hollywood. (Yes, even today there is no single star who has sold as many tickets.)

Al St. John, later known as "Fuzzy," plays a different kind of role, but still shows himself the champion scene stealer.

Cecilia Parker was a doll, cute, perky, with animated features that should have led her into more fame.

The stunt work shows the hand of that master, Yakima Canutt, who is also cast in a minor part.

All in all, this movie is about as much fun as any one film can be; it is more than worth watching: it is worth watching again.

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An Unsuccessful "Singing Cowboy," Film, but Fun Anyway., 19 February 2007
4/10
Author: John W Chance (Chance2000esl@yahoo.com) from San Francisco, California

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Not the best of the Lone Star series, but it moves along quickly with good performances.

Introduced as "Singin' Sandy" in the main title, John Wayne as a 'singing cowboy' isn't successful-- you never even see a front close-up of him while he's 'singing.' The actual singer is the director's son, Bill Bradley, who warbles away sounding like many popular singers of the day such as Hutch or Joseph Wagstaff.

The film features: Cecilia Parker (also seen in "The Lost Jungle" serial, "Tombstone Canyon," and as older sister Marian in the Andy Hardy movies) doing her best Katherine Hepburn-- "Really they mustn't; really I'm not"; Al St. John, before he literally became "Fuzzy" filling all his available screen time with his characteristic business of hat flipping, head and chin scratching, grimacing, and gawky physical gestures and movements; George (pre-Gabby) Hayes as a gentle pipe smoking father; and Forrest Taylor, minor vet of 395 movies and TV shows, playing the oily villain with string bow tie and prop cigar.

Fun or odd moments: Yakima Canutt's great 'under the stagecoach' trick; the 'gay' scene when Singin' Sandy ties Bert and Elmer together face to face, drags them roped to his horse, and dumps them at Kincaid's office, where Kincaid says, "You're a fine pair of lovebirds!"; Denton's rapturous comment after an atrocious song and guitar playing performance by 'Sandy,' -- "Ummm. I could listen to that all night!"; Kincaid's reply, We won't go into that," after being told by a rancher "You've got the soul of a snake!"; and, of course, he utters the immortal, "I've made Denton an offer he can't refuse."

The plot of the movie is saved by Sandy's tricking Kincaid, and later saying the three magic words in many of these films: "I'm from Washington." FDR has saved us from the Depression! (Is that why the villains are always either bankers or in real estate?)

The shootout sequence is taken from the earlier Bradbury film "Man from Hell's Edges" (1932). All of the Lone Star westerns are special because of their unique mixture of interesting characters, the troupe of actors and stunt people, and the spin on the clichés and repetitive back stories and situations. This one ranks a little low, marred by the inappropriate and mis-used "Singing Cowboy" gimmick. I'll give it a 4.

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Hayes to Wayne, "Tell her you like her biscuits"., 26 November 2007
5/10
Author: dougdoepke from Claremont,USA

Forget the lame opening of Singin' Sandy (Wayne) warbling a tune that sounds about as much like Wayne's singing voice as mine does. This is still a solid Lone Star programmer. There's not a lot of hard riding or fast shooting, but there is a strong story-line, along with that stellar cast of Lone Star regulars-- George Hayes (before Gabby), Yakima Canutt, Earl Dwire, and Forrest Taylor, excellent as the head bad guy.

I expect the plot really resonated with Dust Bowl audiences of the time. Bad guy Taylor wants to use water rights to buy up all the little farmers in the valley. The effects of water returning to the valley are quite well done for a programmer. Also the crowd scenes look like real farmers, while the 30 seconds of the plain-faced frontier woman appealing to the crowd should be studied by A-grade Westerns.

Wayne is quite engaging as the good guy, looking every inch the part. Also, look for Al (Fuzzy) St. John, sans whiskers, as one of the bad guys, no less. One complaint-- there are two really tumbling trip-wire scenes that send the poor horses head over hoofs. I hope they survived. That was one real problem with these 30's Westerns. Anyway, it's still an entertaining 60 minutes for fans of Wayne and Lone Star.

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If it has John Wayne in it, it has to be good., 27 May 2007
10/10
Author: mge-6 from United States

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If you are a fan of early Duke movies, this Lone Star oldie is a good one. What more could you ask for than Duke, Yak, and Gabby. Lots of good ridin' and shootin'!!! I found it amazing that Duke's singing voice was Bill Bradbury, who is none other than Bob Steele's twin brother. It has been reported that Bob Steele was a high school classmate and friend of Duke, so twin brother Bill may have been too. Anyway, if you like good, clean, early western movies don't miss this one. We don't have to wonder about hidden meanings or try to figure out underlying themes. Just sit back, relax and enjoy a western movie from a simpler day and time. It's called entertainment folks!!!

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