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Welcome to "Ask a Filmmaker," a weekly IMDb column devoted to your questions and concerns about the filmmaking process. Submit your questions to Ask a Writer, Ask a Director, or Ask a Cinematographer, then tune in each week to see what the pros have to say.

August 1, 2005

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by John August by Penelope Spheeris by Oliver Stapleton

So now I have 120 pages of the funniest damn stuff you’ve never seen and I have to describe it in three or four sentences. How do you convey the witty dialogue, the clever visual gags, the essence of the humor in a logline?

Whenever I write one it ends up sounding like it’s describing an action movie or drama. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--Jeff


You aren’t going to be able to summarize the visual gags, puns and one-liners in a logline, so don’t try. Rather, you want to distill what’s funny about the idea of your movie. The best practice is to take existing movies and figure out how you’d boil them down if you had to write a logline.

None of these would classify as John’s Best Effort, but they get the point across:

  • Groundhog Day – Bill Murray gets stuck repeating the same day, again and again. Every day, he tries to do something different, but the next morning everything resets to the way it was.

  • Shrek – A grumpy ogre and his hyperactive donkey have to save a princess. The world is made up of all the different fairy tale characters, like the Three Little Pigs and the Gingerbread Man.

  • Clueless – An airheaded but ultimately well-meaning Beverly Hills teenager tries to “makeover her soul” in a riff on Jane Austen’s Emma.

    Accept the fact that some movies aren’t so easily summarized. For instance, we never did come up with a logline for Go which sounded actually funny.

    Note: Looking up the IMDb summaries for these examples proves that anonymous posters can do better than the pros. For Shrek:

  • A reclusive ogre and a chatterbox donkey go on a quest to rescue a princess for a tyrannical midget lord.

    Damn. It’s the “tyrannical midget lord” that makes it funny.


  • I happened to stumble upon a bootleg VHS copy of your Ozzfest documentary, We Sold Our Souls For Rock and Roll, which is one of your best flicks to date.

    I have heard rumblings of an upcoming direct-to- DVD release, but I was just curious how a film of such quality could sit on a shelf for so long and never get a proper theatrical release. Please advise.

    --Tom

    Thank you for asking about We Sold Our Souls For Rock and Roll and I humbly agree that it is one of my best documentaries, if not the best. I shot the movie on the ¹99 Ozzfest Tour and worked on it for over two years after that. With four cameras, two High Def and two Mini-DV, I ended up with 283 hours of footage. Sorting through and organizing that much material and trying to find the thread to pull it all together was a tedious, even grueling process. There was so much amazingly good material on not only the ten or so bands we were dealing with, but also with the heavy metal enthusiasts which made up the monstrous crowds.

    I made the film before "The Osbournes" TV show and had even tried years earlier to make a theatrical feature length comedy starring Ozzy which was called "Shooting Stars". We really could not get that film going because none of the production entities we approached, major studios included, would believe in the idea that Ozzy Osbourne could be funny. Shows you what they know.

    The reason the film has not been released yet is because of issues with music clearance, which will hopefully be resolved soon. I think the film would do well in theaters, especially now that the general public has a better predisposition about documentaries, but it might just go to DVD. I will just be thrilled for people to finally be able see it as it is an amazing testament to middle-America¹s voracious appetite for partying.


    Who can be officially credited as the inventor/owner of the Zolly shot? I heard some fans say Hitchcock can claim ownership when he used it in Vertigo. Others believe Spielberg perfected it in Poltergeist and Jaws (I'm not sure which Jaws-- I think it was the second one). But who officially used it for the first time and which film or TV project was it used in?
    -DJ Heinlein

    Hitchcock is generally credited with inventing the “trombone” shot which is another name for it.

    It's now been used so many times it’s almost a cliché.


    For most scenes in a film, on average, how many cameras do you have at hand being used simultaneously?

    Mostly one for a normal dialogue scene in a room. 2 for daylight scenes involving some complication ie children, animals, weather etc.

    Then 3 upwards for action scenes or any scene where doing it again is a problem – like blowing up a house etc. The main problem with using more than one camera is that it is hard to make the lighting look good from more than one angle, although if the 2nd camera is used carefully then it can provide very useful additional footage.

    John August's screenwriting credits include Go, Big Fish, Titan A.E. and both Charlie's Angels movies. His current projects include Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Tarzan, and Corpse Bride. He also maintains a screenwriting-oriented website at johnaugust.com.

    Born and raised in Boulder, Colorado, John earned a degree in journalism from Drake University in Iowa, and an MFA in film production from the Peter Stark program at the University of Southern California. He lives in Los Angeles.

    Got a question about screenwriting? Send it to Ask a Writer.

    Penelope Spheeris made her feature film debut with The Decline of Western Civilization, an energetic documentary about the L.A. punk scene in the early 1980's. She has since directed a number of diverse projects, including Wayne's World , Suburbia , and The Boys Next Door , as well as completing two more films in the Decline series (The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years in 1988 and The Decline of Western Civilization Part III in 1998). We Sold Our Souls for Rock 'n' Roll, debuted at the 2001 Sundance Film Festival. In 2004, she produced and directed The Kid and I, based on a true story about a young man with cerebral palsy, who wants to be an actor.

    Got a question about directing? Send it to Ask a Director.

    Oliver Stapleton, B.S.C. has photographed dozens of critically acclaimed films, including My Beautiful Laundrette, The Grifters, The Hi-Lo Country , and The Cider House Rules . He received an Independent Spirit Award nomination for his work on Earth Girls Are Easy . He is currently filming Casanova with director Lasse Hallström in Venice.

    If you are considering working in the movie industry, Oliver Stapleton has written a brief guide available at www.cineman.co.uk.

    Got a question about cinematography? Send it to Ask a Cinematographer.